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“beautiful and remote”
Review of Toroweap Point

Toroweap Point
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Owner description: Acrophobes may want to avoid this overlook, on the remote part of the North Rim, which provides awesome Canyon views from sheer cliffs nearly 3,000 feet high above the Colorado River.
Reviewed 17 November 2011

We were part of the TA group that went out to Toroweap. I echo everything Ohio Hick had to say.

If you have a 4 by 4 high clearance vehicle-- it is SO worth your while to visit this area of the Grand Canyon. No crowds- no facilities- just nature. Definitely go prepared in case of a flat tire.

Not all were as leery of the height as OH (as my one photo will attest) NOT something I would be comfortable in doing but we had a "mountain goat" in our midst :)

Wonderful experience and something all should do who love the canyon.

Thank wings1980
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Reviewed 6 November 2011

A group of Trip Advisor contributors, spouses, family and friends invaded Kanab, Utah, for a few days of outdoor fun. One of the day trips that we organized was a drive to Toroweap, a remote overlook along the north rim of the Grand Canyon. We had 18 folks who decided to take the drive, so we put together a convoy of five suitable vehicles. Being TA regulars, this group had done its homework and knew the type of vehicles needed to make the trek and also knew that problems were likely, so we were well prepared with tire pumps and tools.

There are at least three routes to Toroweap (or Tuweep). Since we were coming from Kanab, we took the most often used route, called the Sunshine route on the NPS website: (BLM road #109), the primary access route, leaves Highway 389 about seven miles/12km west of Fredonia. (6 miles east of Pipe Springs NM) It is 61 miles /100 km long and is the most reliable route, but is subject to washboarding and dust.

The ride to Toroweap is fairly easy for the first 50 miles or so. However, once you pass the Ranger station, the character of the road changes dramatically. Overall, the first 50 miles of dirt road is flat and straight with just one or two small hills and a curve or two. Not far after the Ranger station, the condition of the road degrades significantly and generally climbs through a series of switchbacks and curves, all of which are full of large rocks and ruts. The road demands a high-clearance vehicle. It is a bit of a kidney buster. But it is a fun drive. Again, our convoy was well suited for the drive as we had three mid size SUVs, a full size SUV and a full size pickup truck, all with good clearance and I think all had 4WD or AWD. We made this drive in late October and the weather had been dry for some time, so there was a LOT of dust, so much so that we had to keep some distance between the vehicles to be able to see. For this reason, we made a couple of stops along the way in and out of Toroweap, just to make sure that we were all still accounted for. This proved to be a good strategy as on the return trip one of the vehicles pulled up lame; flat tire. Not an uncommon occurrence as the Park Service information on Toroweap states that 25% of the vehicles that make the drive will experience a flat tire…or worse. I think the drive from the highway to the rim was about 2.5 hours, but again we were not trying to break any records and we stopped for a break at the Ranger station as well as a couple of photo ops.

After our bumpy ride, finally arriving at the rim was a joy and a relief! I reckon we reached the rim about 11:30. We all piled out of our dust covered caravan and staggered over to the rim for a view of the Colorado River some 3000 feet below us. I was probably the most cautious of the group when it came to heading to the rim….steep drops and edges are just not my thing! But the view, even from several feet from the rim was truly magnificent! I did manage to get fairly close to the edge, as I found a couple vantage points that had sort of a natural barrier or a very wide ledge.

It was now lunch time, and we found a nice table under a tree near the rim, so we set up there and added a couple folding tables and several chairs that we had dragged along with us. I pulled one of the folding tables out of the bed of the pickup truck and it was FULL of red dirt from the drive up the to the rim. We also had a couple visitors at lunch as well, a chipmunk or two.

After a snack, I headed off to explore. I walked only a short distance from the picnic site and was quickly out of earshot of everyone else. Talk about peace and solitude. I had a very nice time just sitting on a rock overlooking the canyon and the river. There was not a sound other than that made by the wind. It was a great few minutes and kind that I look for when in the parks.

After a little more exploration we loaded up the convoy and started back to Kanab about 2:30, so about 3 hours total at the rim, which was enough to enjoy the views, explore a bit and have a nice picnic. We also had a very nice chat with the Ranger who is responsible for the area. Very friendly and enthusiastic young man who obviously thinks he has the best job on the planet…and he may. One interesting point that he mentioned was that Toroweap gets about 20,000 visitors annually. A small number compared to the 4 million tourists at the South Rim, but still an impressive total considering the primitive nature of the area and the bone-jarring ride in.

As mentioned, the only black mark on the day was the flat tire that hampered the full size SUV on the way home. Later on the ride out, we passed some twisted sign posts in the road; someone had obviously gone off the edge of the road and knocked these over. They made for a serious road hazard, so we made a U-turn and removed them from the road….our good deed for the day! This was on the flat part of the road, where you could travel at a decent speed, so the moral of the story is to always be alert on the road.

6  Thank OhioHick
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Reviewed 15 September 2011

I have wanted to visit Toroweap for 30 years and finally got to the area. Knowing that the road is historically a car killer, I had rented a small SUV to get there. Considering that the SUV would not be covered in such off road conditions and after reading another review here at Trip Advisor, I let Will James of Dreamland Safari take me there. Well worth the time and cost. A great guy, very knowlegable in this and other areas of the country. The weather could have been better but that couldn't be controlled. If you ever get a chance to see this place, don't miss the chance to see it. Les than 1% of the people who visit the canyon ever see Toroweap and its the best. And be sure to let Will take you when you get there.

Thank James P
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Reviewed 23 August 2011

We've visited the South Rim.

We've visited the North Rim.

Then there's Toroweap.

I never would have believed there are any places left in the United States where you can walk as close to a 3000 foot vertical precipice as your nerves will allow with no guard rails, no wheelchair friendly ramps, no lawsuit driven, mind numbing signs warning ignorant people not to do ignorant things....but let me assure you, there is at least one such place.

There are no private companies with contracts with the Government to offer you over-priced coffee, or trinkets, or baubles of any kind. You will drive 61 miles down dirt roads to get to Toroweap (Don't let other people scare you out of this though, the first 56 miles were well maintained dirt roads - the last 5 can be a bit bumpy and a little extra ground clearance is helpful - stock SUV's and even pickups should have no problem. I do want to say, though, that if the dirt roads are wet - all bets are off). Google earth makes it look as though the trail may be hard to follow. This is not the case. The trail is very well marked, and should present no problems at all. Just stick to the main road the entire way.

You will camp in primitive (but exceptionally clean) grounds approximately one mile from the precipice. People who come here tend to be hard core nature enthusiasts. They like it raw and unblemished. LEAVE NO FOOTPRINT! Stay on the trails, and give Mother Nature her due respect.

And the rewards she will grant you will leave a lifetime impression.

You will stand on the edge, noting the fault lines in the slabs of stone beneath your feet weighing thousands of tons that have been waiting millennia for their turn to calve off the face of the cliff and go crashing 3000 feet to the Colorado river below (will they still be waiting thousands of years in the future, or is your 150 pounds just enough to set the event in motion? Shut your eyes, pray to your God, step out, and hope for the best!)

Looking to the West, you will see mighty Vulcan's Throne, who, just 73,000 years ago (less than a blink in geological time) belched forth great rivers of lava that dared to dam and challenge the mighty Colorado! But the Colorado has been playing the build and destroy game with the Earth's titanic forces for nearly 2 billion years. She broke through Vulcan's puny lava dam, and now the only remanant of Vulcan's bid for dominance are some of the greatest rapids in the entire canyon.

Yes, all of this will be yours. Its hard not to wax poetic - to be stupefied by the raw beauty of Mother Nature's very heart.

13  Thank AzChupacabra
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Reviewed 2 August 2011

Toroweap, also called Tuweep, offers fantastic views of the North Rim of the Grand Canyon. The 61 mile unpaved 4WD road is a "tire eater" so we hired Dreamland Safari Tours to take us there. Our guid Will, not only made the drive seem effortless, he offered great insights into the geology and natural environment of this beautiful area. Well worth the money for the tour, we had a wonderful day.

3  Thank TravlerDebbie
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