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Trying to obtain my Grandparents Birth Certificate

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Trying to obtain my Grandparents Birth Certificate

I want to apply for a Italian Citizenship and obtain an Italian Passport.

I thought being married to an Italian citizen qualify me for citizenship. My children are considered citizens, not sure why I am not able to do this without the long process.

In order to do this I need to obtain my grand parents birth certificate. They were born in Messina, Italy, my grandfather was born in 1880 and my grand mother in 1900.

I don't know either ones of my great grandparents names.

Does anyone know that easiest way to obtain these records?

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Here & There
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1. Re: Trying to obtain my Grandparents Birth Certificate

Welcome to Sicily cmazzo1218!

After a specific number of years you would qualify for citizenship through your husband, and in your husband's comune.

Citizenship:

CITIZENSHIP BY MARRIAGE TO AN ITALIAN CITIZEN.

esteri.it/mae/…cittadinanza.html

Vagabonda

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2. Re: Trying to obtain my Grandparents Birth Certificate

If you were to obtain citizenship via your own family lineage, you would request raised seal birth certificates for your grandparents from the Comune di Messina, specifically the Ufficio Anagrafe/ Servizi Demografici where all the people who were born in a town are registered. Include names and dates of birth.

http://www.comune.messina.it/

…messina.it/informazioni/…

But you would also have to show continuous lineage from these grandparents through the generations, and so either your mother or father would have to obtain citizenship.

You might contact Rosy Bartolotta is a specialist in family history records.

bestsicilyguides.com/sicilianfamilyresearch.…

Vagabonda

Boston...
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3. Re: Trying to obtain my Grandparents Birth Certificate

Thank You Vagabonda for replying so quickly

So you are saying that my father would have to be an Italian citizen in order for me to become one too in order to get a copy of my grand parents birth certificates in Italy.

My father was born in the US but I do not think he is an Italian citizen.

I thought maybe because I was married to an Italian and being of Sicilian descent myself I could become a Italian citizen myself. I wish there was an easier way to get an Italian passport.

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4. Re: Trying to obtain my Grandparents Birth Certificate

Hi cmazzo1218,

It would be possible for you to get copies of your grandparent's birth certificates.

That has nothing to do with citizenship.

But for citizenship, yes, for you to become an Italian citizen, your father would have to be an Italian citizen, or your father would have to become an Italian citizen.

Your acquisition request for Italian citizenship would then apply under "iure sanguinis", citizenship as a result of ancestors.

Your father's parents had to be Italian at the time of your father's birth.

Raised seal documents with apostille would be required for birth, marriage, US naturalization, and death for whichever grandparent you selected for the process.

All names and dates must match on all documents.

If you hope to become Italian through your family, your husband's citizenship doesn't matter at all for your process.

Just having Sicilian decent doesn't matter without proving that an Italian was born to an Italian.

Perhaps the easiest way is to petition via your husband's citizenship.

Vagabonda

Boston...
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5. Re: Trying to obtain my Grandparents Birth Certificate

The reason for the birth certificates were needed to apply for citizenship but it looks like this may not be possible unless through marriage but i’m doubtful.

We will try and see if that works or not.

Thank you.

Edited: 25 September 2018, 03:52
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6. Re: Trying to obtain my Grandparents Birth Certificate

To apply via Jure Sanguinis one of your parents needed to be an Italian citizen at the time of your birth. The only reason to get your Grandparents birth certificate is to prove your parent was a citizen.

If you've been married more than three years you should be able to apply to naturalize via marriage. I think it's three years for people living in the US.

Boston...
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7. Re: Trying to obtain my Grandparents Birth Certificate

We’ve been married for more than three years.

We were told I needed to be a citizen before I can go through the process of getting an Italian passport. They make the process so difficult.

We will try to do this via CITIZENSHIP BY MARRIAGE TO AN ITALIAN CITIZEN and see what happens. I have my birth certificate and marriage certificate. All they need to do is a background check.

Thank you.

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8. Re: Trying to obtain my Grandparents Birth Certificate

Many apply for birth certificates for personal reasons that have nothing to do with obtaining citizenship.

But for citizenship, you would require more than birth certificates, and for your selected grandparent and parent. You only need the information for one grandparent, and then that grandparents child, your parent.

You would also require a marriage certificate, the US Naturalization certificate, and also death certificates if applicable, or that your parent is a citizen, and then just do this process for you.

And yes, you would be required to be an Italian citizen prior to obtaining an Italian passport.

Yes, you would be required a criminal background check.

Vagabonda

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